Louise Gorman’s response
And I'm a
continue to put the rap down, put the mack down
And if your bitches talk shit, I have ta' put the smack down ...
Like this,
that and this and uh
It's like that and like this and like that and uh
It's like this, and who gives a fuck about hoes
So jus' chill, 'til the next episode
–Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre, “Nuthin' but a G Thang”
Just as we were about to go to bed on July 14, 2005, we got the following email from the address louisegorman@comcast.net. Of note, this email was sent to us within days of posting Janet Ostrander’s story and its anti-Case gag order.
After two years, Louise Gorman finally discovered, or was tipped off to, our website. Namely, their adoption journal placed in a file on a publicly accessible Yahoo! group posted by her husband Kris on July 14, 2003 (exactly two years before!).
We find her anger about this to be terribly misplaced. Not only was it posted to a public website, her husband posted a link to it on Russian Yahoo! that anyone could have read online. We discovered later on that Kris removed the adoption journal from the Yahoo! site. However, we did save a copy - both on Word and a full print out. If Louise Gorman, real estate broker, is made to look foolish by what she said, it’s her own damn fault.
Our commentary casts her in a bad (yet not false) light, we admit. Nevertheless it is simply our opinion based on statements made in the adoption journal which she did not deny or retract in this email.
Louise “Bitter and Barren” Gorman wasn’t happy. Since, like ODJFS, we believe in giving people an opportunity to respond, we have complied with her concluding request.
Despite its denials of anything to do with Denise Hubbard or being online in the adoption circuit much in the intervening years, she sure seems to know about our “dimented, bitter, twisted vendetta against BBAS ... although I am very familiar with your antics and postings.” In fact, Denise’s rhetorical fingerprints are all over it. Remember, this woman believes she is a good Christian and that we are somehow not (Unfortunately for Jesus, she found Him. Better luck next time, King of Kings).
All language as in original.
I would strongly urge you to remove any reference you make to me and any of my family members on your website. Despite the
fact that you published this in 2003, my journal is no longer published and you do not have my permission to publicize on
your site. I have not been exposed to your dimented bitter, twisted vendetta against BBAS for some years now and also have
not followed any adoption chat rooms, although I am very familiar with your antics and postings. Frankly I am appauled at
the fact that you can carry on a grudge for so long. This site was brought to my attention by a family member who stumbled
upon it today.
Our adoption process was a very personal "rewarding" experience for us and for our children. Today my children are growing up happy and healthy. You have no idea what our family, home and integrity is all about and you have no right to publicly slander us on the internet. My children are blessings from God as everyone and everything on this earth are, desptie what your atheist mind may believe. God didn't give me the ability to bear children of my own but he found a way to unite us with our children and that is a blessing. We didn't "save them" from anything - we simply adopted to have the family we always wanted as I'm sure (or hope)was your original motive was as well.I am sorry that you had a horrific experience but I know that you also have a son that you successfully adopted. What lessons do you teach him with all your bitterness? Why can't you let people have their own experiences and do as they choose. What right do you have to "taint" everyone and in so doing harm the children that will lose out on having families as a result. Furthermore, please get your facts straight before you apply your warped interpretations. Our second adoption was not done through BBAS and any discounts given to us were mainly to assist us in getting our daughter home quickly to avoid delays thus rendering her in a sanitarium. You are cold, cruel and unforgiving for using my daughter's handicap to your advantage. It's a real pity that the value and quality of life is measured by money alone to you.My husband and I are educated, professionals with a passion for life and respect for people - unlike yourselves. If you honestly believe that we were "suckered" into anything you are gravely mistaken. If you truly believe that the Russians out there are living high on our dollars, then your quality of life is far inferior to most people I know. We didn't give anything we didn't want to the orphanage, Tatyana, Svetlana or other aids. We knew exactly what price we were going to pay to adopt and we knew our rights prior to going out there. We never expressed "shock" at the Russians not speaking Engllish only portrayed precisely what we were experiencing to help others understand what they, too would be confronted with. I have lived in countries other than the U.S., I am fluent in foreign languages and have basically traveled the world. I have seen the depths of poverty in the world and understand very clearly that there is no such thing as salvation if you know no other life! Have you had such worldly experiences in your life??? I doubt it because your ignorance is spelled out throughout your documents. If you have, then you have learned nothing from it.Lastly, I have no vested interest in BBAS or Denise Hubbard. I do like the staff that assisted us there as I do the staff with 3 other agencies that I've worked with. These people are utilizing their time to help make life better for others. I hope it also hasn't escaped you that people open business and must cover expenses and salaries to maintain that business, so to fault them for making a living at this is very petty of you. I applaud the fact that they went into a business that will help children who are simply victims to their birth. People can make mistakes and move on. Yes, you're situation was very sad, but more than what you experienced - I am sad for the poor little boy that lost his life never knowing what better life may have awaited him or that someone could have genuinely loved him and cared for him. Although I do question whether God didn't do him a favor since your integrity is now questionable. I wonder what you would be using your time to pursue had this adoption been successful. Would you spend the same energy helping the children and praising Denise?If you must go on with your bitterness and anger do it without using my precious family to fuel your cause. We are happy, whatever money we spent we did so willingly. Today I give money to the Foster care system and under-priviledged children in America and note I DO SO WILLINGLY AND HAPPILY. And as for the "new age" electronics - how do you know what we possess in our home? My focus with my children is far more on making them loving, forgiving Christian children than spoiling them with inanimate electronic toys that only serve to make them more intraverted.Feel free to publish this email on your website in fairness to my family.
Done.
While this speaks for itself for the most part, how does Louise call herself an “educated, professional” and sell houses when she fumbles with the language this much.
We shared this with many of our comrades-in-arms in the adoption reform fight. Every single one was appalled at Louise’s cheap shot in the penultimate paragraph — implying that Cyril was better off having died than having us as parents. Not what Jesus would do, we daresay. One writer said it made her glad she was Jewish if that was what Christianity was. (Neither of us, by the way, are atheists).
The day after, we called her employer in Nashua, NH, simply to verify that she was still indeed a Realtor at that address, so that we would not publish outdated or inaccurate information on our website. We had no wish to speak to her, so when we were put through to her voice mail, we left no message.
She couldn’t, however, take the hint. Within minutes, she called us back at our house. While the conversation was brief, awkward and terse, mainly about how we had nothing to talk about, she dares call us vindictive?
We will take neither the links nor our commentary on her publicly available adoption journal down from this website.
A few months later, we learned that this sort of thing was now standard operational procedure at Building Blocks for dealing with the Cases and the embarassing disclosures on their website.
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